The Second Wildcard

[soxforlife05]

Weren't we like 7 games up on the Indians at one point? Crazy how far this team has fallen. 14 game winning streak is absurd.

[caulfield12]

Indians' longest winning streak in franchise history (tied with 1951 team, and another in the 1940's).

 

Ryan Goins pitched the 18th and escaped from a bases loaded situation with a DP ball....threw 90.

 

Barney gave up the homer on an 85-86 MPH "fastball."

 

Bauer was supposed to start tomorrow's day game but pitched 5 shutout innings in relief so they'll have to find another starter to go against All-Star Estrada (probably will be the end of their winning streak). Joba Chamberlain, miraculously extricated himself from danger two innings in a row.

 

Pillar made a gave-saving catch. Phillies blew two bases-loaded situations in the middle innings against Tomlin.

 

Indians had numerous chances in extra innings. They used every single reliever except for closer Cody Allen, who wasn't available.

Edited July 2, 2016 by caulfield12

[caulfield12]

Weren't we like 7 games up on the Indians at one point? Crazy how far this team has fallen. 14 game winning streak is absurd.

 

6/7/8 games up on the Indians/Royals/Tigers on May 6th.

 

So we've lost 15 games in the standings to them now since that time. Indians were one game under .500 that day.

Edited July 2, 2016 by caulfield12

[flavum]

Red Sox win. Angels should have tied it on fan interference, but replay didn't overturn it. BS.

[fathom]

Red Sox win. Angels should have tied it on fan interference, but replay didn't overturn it. BS.

 

Awful call

[greg775]

Indians' longest winning streak in franchise history (tied with 1951 team, and another in the 1940's).

 

Ryan Goins pitched the 18th and escaped from a bases loaded situation with a DP ball....threw 90.

 

Barney gave up the homer on an 85-86 MPH "fastball."

 

Bauer was supposed to start tomorrow's day game but pitched 5 shutout innings so they'll have to find another starter to go against All-Star Estrada (probably will be the end of their winning streak).

 

Pillar made a gave-saving catch. Phillies blew two bases-loaded situations in the middle innings against Tomlin.

 

Indians had numerous chances in extra innings. They used every single reliever except for closer Cody Allen, who wasn't available.

Didn't we help turn the Indians' season around? I forget now but didn't the Sox lay down and die and get swept that directly helped them right their .500ish ship?

[caulfield12]

Red Sox win. Angels should have tied it on fan interference, but replay didn't overturn it. BS.

 

 

I was about to guess the replay group in NYC had already gone home but that couldn't possibly be the case, as the Yankees are all still playing in SD.

 

Watched the replay.

 

Clear that ball wasn't out of the field of play. Hard as hell for a home team to evict fans for that one, because it was the second bounced and everyone probably assumed it was out of play already from the original bounce before it caromed in that direction at a totally different angle.

 

Obviously, with Trout running....he scores easily. I can't imagine if David Ortiz hit that ball against the Yankees (trailing by 1 late) and it was, let's say, Bogaerts or Bradley, Jr., running that they would have been sent back to 3rd base with their team down by a run still. Just no way that happens. Never in a million years.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2016 by caulfield12

[SCCWS]

I was about to guess the replay group in NYC had already gone home but that couldn't possibly be the case, as the Yankees are all still playing in SD.

 

Watched the replay.

 

Clear that ball wasn't out of the field of play. Hard as hell for a home team to evict fans for that one, because it was the second bounced and everyone probably assumed it was out of play already from the original bounce before it caromed in that direction at a totally different angle.

 

Obviously, with Trout running....he scores easily. I can't imagine if David Ortiz hit that ball against the Yankees (trailing by 1 late) and it was, let's say, Bogaerts or Bradley, Jr., running that they would have been sent back to 3rd base with their team down by a run still. Just no way that happens. Never in a million years.

 

WRONG. That group in NYC are all Yankee or Met fans. New York teams always get the benefit of replay calls.

 

[GGajewski18]

Indians' longest winning streak in franchise history (tied with 1951 team, and another in the 1940's).

 

Ryan Goins pitched the 18th and escaped from a bases loaded situation with a DP ball....threw 90.

 

Barney gave up the homer on an 85-86 MPH "fastball."

 

Bauer was supposed to start tomorrow's day game but pitched 5 shutout innings in relief so they'll have to find another starter to go against All-Star Estrada (probably will be the end of their winning streak). Joba Chamberlain, miraculously extricated himself from danger two innings in a row.

 

Pillar made a gave-saving catch. Phillies blew two bases-loaded situations in the middle innings against Tomlin.

 

Indians had numerous chances in extra innings. They used every single reliever except for closer Cody Allen, who wasn't available.

 

Ryan Goins goes on the DL with forearm tightness

[caulfield12]

WRONG. That group in NYC are all Yankee or Met fans. New York teams always get the benefit of replay calls.

 

 

I thought there was a rotating group of umpires involved...how can they be fans of any team?

 

 

Boston +7 (losing)

2. KC +6

3. HOU/TOR/DET +5 1/2 GB

6. SEA +3 1 1/2 GB (assuming they hold 8-1 lead against BALT)

7. CHW +1 2 1/2 GB

8. NYY -1 3 1/2 GB

 

Could have 8 teams within 4 games (assuming the NYC Review Crew doesn't screw over the Angels again, somehow)

Edited July 3, 2016 by caulfield12

[flavum]

We need a perfect day:

 

White Sox beat the Astros

Phillies beat the Royals

Angels beat the Red Sox

Rays beat the Tigers

Indians beat the Blue Jays

Orioles beat the Mariners

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/view/wi...rd/group/league

 

It's not good seeing five teams ahead of the Sox at 5 over .500, or better.

[caulfield12]

We need a perfect day:

 

White Sox beat the Astros

Phillies beat the Royals

Angels beat the Red Sox

Rays beat the Tigers

Indians beat the Blue Jays

Orioles beat the Mariners

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings/_/view/wi...rd/group/league

 

It's not good seeing five teams ahead of the Sox at 5 over .500, or better.

 

 

Feels a lot like 2015, deja vu all over again. Minus the 23-10 start. Last year we had the winning streak in late July to project false hope instead.

[flavum]

Feels a lot like 2015, deja vu all over again. Minus the 23-10 start. Last year we had the winning streak in late July to project false hope instead.

 

Yeah, we know where this is headed over the next month. Really, if the Sox are going to make any type of run--right now is the time. They kinda need to win today, and then come home and beat the Yankees and Braves 5 or 6 games. Then after the break, Anaheim and Seattle and go 4-2.

 

10-3 the next 13 is really needed.

[flavum]

Archer pitched over bases loaded, nobody out in the first. Rays better beat the Tigers at least one game this series.

[flavum]

Through 81 Games:

 

Bos 44-37 +1

Det 43-38 --

Tor 43-38 --

KC 43-38 --

Hou 43-38 --

Sea 42-39 1

Sox 41-40 2

 

Buckle up.

Edited July 3, 2016 by flavum

[flavum]

Andrew Miller struggling in San Diego this weekend. Probably won't be available tomorrow.

[caulfield12]

 

 

Boston +7

2. Detroit/Toronto +6

4. KC +5 1/2 GB

5. HOU/SEA +4 1 GB

7. CHW +2 2 GB

8. NYY -1 3 1/2 GB

 

The Yankees/Sox series still looms as a type of "mini-elimination" set if the White Sox can sweep NY. It's also huge for our non-Sale/Q run in the starting rotation to sustain the positive momentum with this current 9-4 streak.

 

Sabathia vs. Shields

Tanaka vs. Rodon

TBD vs. Miguel Gonzalez

 

 

KC at Toronto

DET at CLE (huge series for the Tigers)

 

[Dick Allen]

Boston +7

2. Detroit/Toronto +6

4. KC +5 1/2 GB

5. HOU/SEA +4 1 GB

7. CHW +2 2 GB

8. NYY -1 3 1/2 GB

 

The Yankees/Sox series still looms as a type of "mini-elimination" set if the White Sox can sweep NY. It's also huge for our non-Sale/Q run in the starting rotation to sustain the positive momentum with this current 9-4 streak.

 

Sabathia vs. Shields

Tanaka vs. Rodon

TBD vs. Miguel Gonzalez

 

 

KC at Toronto

DET at CLE (huge series for the Tigers)

Get off the elimination crap. You told us Detroit was on the brink 2 months ago. Besides, the season ended today foe the White Sox with another dissappointing series win. Your prediction of getting rolled by Toronto, Minnesota and Houston and virtually ending the season was pure Miss Cleo. You need to start a new business.

[caulfield12]

For the New York Yankees, in terms of their direction with dealing Miller and Chapman, it's going to be.

 

Now the likelihood of them getting swept with two of their best starters going and the bottom 3 for the Sox isn't that high.

 

And the White Sox might have gone 9-4, but they still don't have a DH or solid RH relief depth. There's nothing that you can do to change that. Fundamentally, they're still in the same exact precarious situation they were last year at this time, albeit their record is better.

 

If you told me they were going to trade for one of Josh Reddick/Beltran/Bruce and Miller/Chapman/insert solid RH reliever, then I would place them as a solid playoff favorite. Of course, there's still those six teams ahead of us, all with more resources or deeper farm systems, so it's going to take JR signing off on adding $10-15 in additional payroll. Do you believe he will do that now?

 

Flavum and I said 6-3 (or better) or 3-6 (or worse) would help Hahn make that decision over the ASB. Right now, they're at 2-1.

 

4-2 the next two series leaves them in pretty good shape, but still doesn't guarantee being any higher than 5th or 6th in the WC standings.

Edited July 3, 2016 by caulfield12

[Dick Allen]

For the New York Yankees, in terms of their direction with dealing Miller and Chapman, it's going to be.

 

Now the likelihood of them getting swept with two of their best starters going and the bottom 3 for the Sox isn't that high.

 

And the White Sox might have gone 9-4, but they still don't have a DH or solid RH relief depth. There's nothing that you can do to change that. Fundamentally, they're still in the same exact precarious situation they were last year at this time, albeit their record is better.

 

If you told me they were going to trade for one of Josh Reddick/Beltran/Bruce and Miller/Chapman/insert solid RH reliever, then I would place them as a solid playoff favorite. Of course, there's still those six teams ahead of us, all with more resources or deeper farm systems, so it's going to take JR signing off on adding $10-15 in additional payroll. Do you believe he will do that now?

 

Flavum and I said 6-3 (or better) or 3-6 (or worse) would help Hahn make that decision over the ASB. Right now, they're at 2-1.

 

4-2 the next two series leaves them in pretty good shape, but still doesn't guarantee being any higher than 5th or 6th in the WC standings.

No it isn't. The last time the Yankees bagged a season was? And chances are they do not trade any reliever. The rumor now is Chapman gets an extension.

It doesn't matter what you say. Besides you are always wrong.

 

The Sox still have a lot of LaRoche money left. They will probably spend it on pitching if Morneau shows he can hit, if he is washed up, another bat will come. Jackson and Melky will return and we all , except for you, can be hoping for White Sox victories.

[flavum]

I look at it this way...

 

The Sox have a shot, and we can hope they get to 88 wins or whatever it takes for Sale to be on the mound for an extra game. But the most likely outcome of this season is coming up short. That's just a fact right now.

[daggins]

Its not unthinkable that the Yankees try and do a fast reload by dealing Chapman and Beltran. It would be the same strategy the Tigers took last year.

 

Speaking of which, a logical place for Chapman to land? Detroit, of course.

[flavum]

Yankees probably get to their hotel about 1am or so. Day game tomorrow. I would assume CC flew to Chicago already.

[caulfield12]

No it isn't. The last time the Yankees bagged a season was? And chances are they do not trade any reliever. The rumor now is Chapman gets an extension.

It doesn't matter what you say. Besides you are always wrong.

 

The Sox still have a lot of LaRoche money left. They will probably spend it on pitching if Morneau shows he can hit, if he is washed up, another bat will come. Jackson and Melky will return and we all , except for you, can be hoping for White Sox victories.

 

Whenever you get like this, it practically guarantees the White Sox won't follow suit and will do the opposite.

 

There aren't very many Yankees' fans who honestly think their team should "GO FOR IT" this year when success is predicated on so many aging/over the hill veterans. They all have seen the competition just in the AL East and know their team is lacking.

 

And, in case you haven't noticed, the Yankees look more like the Twins in terms of their recent free agent spending, other than McCann two and Tanaka offseasons ago. Since then...?

 

It really doesn't make sense for NY to pay "peak value" for Chapman when they already have Betances and Miller under contract affordably (the combination of both averaging out.)

[Dick Allen]

Whenever you get like this, it practically guarantees the White Sox won't follow suit and will do the opposite.

 

There aren't very many Yankees' fans who honestly think their team should "GO FOR IT" this year when success is predicated on so many aging/over the hill veterans. They all have seen the competition just in the AL East and know their team is lacking.

 

And, in case you haven't noticed, the Yankees look more like the Twins in terms of their recent free agent spending, other than McCann two and Tanaka offseasons ago. Since then...?

It really doesn't make sense for NY to pay "peak value" for Chapman when they already have Betances and Miller under contract affordably (the combination of both averaging out.)

Tex and Beltran coming off the books. Royals below .500 and 8 games back after 98 games in 2014. Toronto below .500 and 8 games back after 101 games last season. Determining how it all goes down on July 3rd is foolish.

Edited July 4, 2016 by Dick Allen