soxforlife05 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:19 PM) Pick one: James Shields: A) starts at Fenway Thursday B) goes on the DL with a bogus injury. C) makes a trip to the pen He'll make 2-3 more starts then go on the DL the rest of the year with a bogus injury. Hopefully he opts out and retires this offseason. Edited June 19, 2016 by soxforlife05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Collins up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I'd say give shields 1 more start, if he blows then skip a start and let him work a lot on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 So Shields and Cooper fixed something right? 22 runs in 8 2/3. THAT SAID - HOLY BAD DEFENSE. 1- Lawrie. Made tough play but bad throw, runner reaches. Not an error but not picking up defense. 2 - Anderson drops a pop fly. Yes not an error but you gonna tell me Saladino doesn't catch that? He does/ 3- Melky drops ball in left. Tough play but didn't pick up pitcher. 4 - Ball goes under the ridiculously over-rated Frazier's glove. How is that not an error? Right under his glove. Todd Frazier is hitting .200. TWO HUNDRED people. AND HE DOES NOTHING OTHER THAN HOMER OR STRIKEOUT. HE DOES NOT GET BASE HITS. Insanely bad trade. Insane. 5 - That horrible Shuch bobble then horrible Anderson relay. I've seen enough of Tim. And still waiting for that first walk, Timmy. I promise you he'll be under .250 with no walks by July. I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Could be worse I remember a 19-0 loss to the Angels in May 2002. Scott Schoenweis over Danny Wright. Tim Salmon, Adam Kennedy and Garret Anderson had about 20 of the Angels 24 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:19 PM) Just wave the white flag. I'll feel bad for this fan base. #WeDeserveBetter Why? Most of the fans enjoy losing so they can be in misery 24/7. That's why they just need a full continuous rebuild. Never ending losing. Edited June 19, 2016 by Baron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 What did Collins do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 You know it's bad when their #9 hitter is a double away from hitting for the cycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) What did Collins do? K on a change up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Playing the pitching matchups in a 13-2 game. Gotta love Robin lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Adam Dunn: 2011: .159, 177K's 2012: .204, 222K's 2013: .219, 189K's 2014: .220, 132K's (Partial season) Adam LaRoche: 2015: .207, 133Ks Todd Frazier: .199, 63K's (partial season Keep going after sluggers, Sox. Never fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 For those scoring at home that's 916 K's in basically around 5 years of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 I still can't lump Frazier with the Adams. And I don't think the NL/AL thing matters. The Sox just suck, and they bring out the suck in a lot of players. Anderson is next. Wait a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Why did they take Duke out so soon? Might as well as have him eat up an inning or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Not a good game for Anderson. Gonna happen a lot as he gets accustomed to MLB pitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 So seriously they have to just DL Shields after this one right? They can't just run him out there again later this week right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 At the beginning of the year SouthSide Sox talked about that very thing. Can Frazier bust out like the Adams? They said not but if he were hitting .200 around all star break, then well.. And guess what, another couple weeks and we're there. So why can't he be lumped in? Let's look at signs. People say he plays good D. But he doesn't. He's made some nice plays but look at defensive stats. He's cost us several runs at 3rd. Okay, next argument, power numbers. Yes, he has hitten lots of homers. Absolutely. but what else? Is he getting on base at all besides that? no. Is he driving in runs at all besides that? No. Now let's look for warning signs. LaRoche was aging, coming off a year where he was great first half, and had a terrible slide 2nd half, and we picked him up. Frazier, aging though still young in theory, was coming off an all star first half and an awful 2nd half. The signs were there. We chose to ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 What the heck, I'll throw in something positive.. Love Ynoa's curveball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 QUOTE (ronkark @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) What the heck, I'll throw in something positive.. Love Ynoa's curveball. I give you credit for still watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 It's too bad Ynoa couldn't stick as a starter. He has some nice looking pitches. You can see why the A's gave him the biggest bonus for a kid coming out of the Dominican at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 To the Shields question. What to do? I think you have to start him unfortunately. This staff is fried. I'd love to DL him and give him rehab in AAA. But honestly, who replaces him? Renudo or whoever prob most likely but I don't haev a lot of confidence. The shame is we all thought Fulmer would be good enough that'd be he an option if the starters tanked like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Quite the series for Frazier. What a bad game overall for the franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 The storyline of Ranaudo coming back to face his former team at Fenway will be a good one. A distraction at least. We're only 1 game away from being ahead of only the Twins and A's in the balanced AL. Very quietly, the Rays and especially the Astros have crept up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insp Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 How has Frazier fallen so far so fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronkark Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Re: Lawrie is hitting .232. Is there a reason Saladino can't play second occasionally? Because Lawrie getting a couple days off is LONG overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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