southsider2k5 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 12:06 PM) And I guess you missed last year's playoffs when George put it on the Raptors to the tune of 27/7.6/4.3/2.0 and nearly 3 3-point makes per game. Butler's playoff stats last year? Oh that's right. He wasn't there. Butler is a stud. You don't have to minimize George to make him look better. And George is signed through next season btw. I don't know why you keep bringing up his FA as if he's a FA this summer. This is a terrible argument for George vs Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Bernstein just reminded me that last year when the trade deadline ended, Gar came to his press conference and declared that Pau Gasol was an important part of this teams future L M A O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Sources tell @RoyceYoung and me that the Thunder have explored the prospect of a trade in which they acquire both D. McDermott and T. Gibson— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) February 23, 2017 Ok, now that might lead to something. Payne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Sources tell @RoyceYoung and me that the Thunder have explored the prospect of a trade in which they acquire both D. McDermott and T. Gibson — Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) February 23, 2017 Ok, now that might lead to something. Payne? Knowing the Bulls they will get Mitch McGary and a second round pick and call it a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) Bernstein just reminded me that last year when the trade deadline ended, Gar came to his press conference and declared that Pau Gasol was an important part of this teams future L M A O Couldn't make the deal that would have guaranteed the SAC 1st this year (lifted the restrictions) plus given us McLemore. SMH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) Knowing the Bulls they will get Mitch McGary and a second round pick and call it a victory. If they get Cameron Payne, I somehow feel ok with the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face The second part is true. The first part is better than having Doug McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:59 AM) I have no idea how the Wizards could afford Paul George, but apparently they're the front runners. GarPax is Zzzzzzzzzzzzz Depends on what you think of Otto Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:11 PM) Depends on what you think of Otto Porter. The Wizards wouldn't deal Porter for PG would they? My guess is it'd be Oubre Jr, picks, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:10 PM) Couldn't make the deal that would have guaranteed the SAC 1st this year (lifted the restrictions) plus given us McLemore. SMH. No kidding. That was the worst of many GarPax decisions. Also awesome that the only chatter re: Bulls moving guys is to OKC who can't trade a 1st until 2022... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:10 PM) Sorry but Payne is not good. He was good player at a mid major. Plus he has a stupid haircut and face Agree. At least McBuckets can shoot sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I'm not so sure the Wizards are any closer to beating Cleveland with George in place of Porter (wizards obviously give up more than Porter) rather than just keeping Porter. Porter+ for Cousins? Now that would've been something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Frank Isola Verified account@FisolaNYDN 7m7 minutes ago The deal would include Andre Roberson and Cam Payne. Frank IsolaVerified account@FisolaNYDN 8m8 minutes ago The Dougie McBuckets trade to OKC is getting closer, according to a league source. Edited February 23, 2017 by JenksIsMyHero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I presume if Doug goes to OKC it would be for Payne. If Bulls like Payne more, I'm fine with it. That said, it wouldn't say much for any thoughts the front office has around Valentine as we'd essentially be carrying like 5 mediocre to crappy PG's (Rondo / Grant / MCW / Valentine / Payne). I'm not even counting Canaan (who never plays anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 McDermott and Taj to OKC. Not official who the bulls get back yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys. The Bulls are going to corner the market on players who can't shoot. This trade doesn't help them short term or long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 02:18 PM) I don't know much about Robertson..but how does a guy who shoots below 25% from 3 point range take over 2.6 threes per game. That is atrocious. That said, it is Doug, and Payne at least has some athleticism. I can't really fault the deal, but I have zero faith in the Bulls player development team maximizing the value of these guys. Teams basically don't guard him so those 3s are all incredibly wide open shots and he has to shoot sometimes or else you really can't even play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Geeze...if we trade Taj and don't get Sabonis back I'll be dissapointed. That said, I'd have preferred a 1st round pick for Taj (and would think we could have gotten an unprotected 1st from a contender). We do need to make moves so I'll at least give the Bulls credit for making moves (if that counts for anything) and getting multiple pieces back. So is it Doug and Taj for Payne / Robertson + someone else (presumably Sabonis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) Geeze...if we trade Taj and don't get Sabonis back I'll be dissapointed. That said, I'd have preferred a 1st round pick for Taj (and would think we could have gotten an unprotected 1st from a contender). We do need to make moves so I'll at least give the Bulls credit for making moves (if that counts for anything) and getting multiple pieces back. So is it Doug and Taj for Payne / Robertson + someone else (presumably Sabonis). If it's Sabonis, great. If not, it's a train wreck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Clearly trying to field the worst possible shooting team for an "offensive" coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) If it's Sabonis, great. If not, it's a train wreck. Stein reporting Payne and Joffrey Lauvergne (not a done deal...just what he's heard). Not a fan. I would have thought we could have moved Taj for a 1st. Doug should get plenty of open 3's playing aside Russell. I think Doug is a valuable bench piece in this league...the Bulls just can't figure out how to use him properly and have killed his confidence. I really can't stand this coaching staff..epically awful. Front office right there with them too. I am not as down as others are on Cameron Payne though. He has shown nice athleticism, but he's had a ton of injury issues, which is a major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 They're clearly giving Taj away after f***ing up with Gasol last year and looking like f***ing idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Well the twitter reporters have backed off including taj. Maybe just McDermott for Roberson/Payne? Whatever. But they still seem desperate to trade Taj and Stein said as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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