Buehrle>Wood Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Boogua @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:06 PM) Apparently they turned down Levine and Dunn for Jimmy. Wow. Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Thibs with the troll job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:07 PM) Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:07 PM) Thanks god the Twolves turned that down. Lavine is far from great. No kidding. I'm shocked they didn't pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 05:09 PM) No kidding. I'm shocked they didn't pull the trigger. Nothing says they still can't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 06:56 PM) I like this draft a lot better than most. Really think Hield-Murray-Dunn will be perennial all stars. Would absolutely love any of them. Brown goes #3. Big shocker there. I would bet at least 2 of the 3 are as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Buddy and the Brow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor. He just turned 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 @espnsteinline ESPN sources say Minnesota continues to try to engage Chicago on talks built around Kris Dunn to try to import Jimmy Butler to the Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:13 PM) I would bet at least 2 of the 3 are as well. I would bet Dunn long before the other 2. I don't think Hield or Murray are versatile enough to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) That would have been awful for the Bulls. LaVine is a 6th man on a legit team. Well, maybe not because JR Smith and Richard Jefferson just started for the champs, but I don't see him being a key contributor. He's 21. Way too early to be saying that. Kid is a very gifted athlete. Now, obviously that's not saying much since a lot of athletes bust, but the upside is much bigger than a 6th man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Zach Lavine doesn't do much for me however. We'll see if it gets done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) He just turned 21. Great. Wake me up when he learns to play point. Otherwise, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:17 PM) He's 21. Way too early to be saying that. Kid is a very gifted athlete. Now, obviously that's not saying much since a lot of athletes bust, but the upside is much bigger than a 6th man. A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender. Edited June 24, 2016 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:22 PM) A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender. He has the tools you can work with though. Not gonna write off a kid that young just yet. Steph Curry had the same issues coming out about learning to play the point and he was getting 36 minutes as a rookie the same age as LaVine.The only things I question with LaVine is his basketball I.Q. and if he cares enough to be passible defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:22 PM) A lot of guys are gifted athletes. He needs to do something besides dunk and do a decent job shooting 3's to be a top guy on a contender. He did that this year. 39% from 3 while taking almost 4 per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I was about to write about how awful a fit Chriss is, but then he gets traded. Phoenix is much more interesting, though he's still a project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) He has the tools you can work with though. Not gonna write off a kid that young just yet. Steph Curry had the same issues coming out about learning to play the point and he was getting 36 minutes as a rookie the same age as LaVine.The only things I question with LaVine is his basketball I.Q. and if he cares enough to be passible defensively. Yes, let's compare him to the best shooter of all time. Steph averaged 6 assists as a rookie while playing with Monta Ellis. Not remotely the same thing. Basketball IQ and defense are what will keep him from being good unless there's major improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) He did that this year. 39% from 3 while taking almost 4 per game. Again, something besides dunk and be a mid/high 30's 3-point shooter. That's basically a young JR Smith (I don't think he's THAT big of a headcase obviously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:34 PM) Yes, let's compare him to the best shooter of all time. Steph averaged 6 assists as a rookie while playing with Monta Ellis. Not remotely the same thing. Sigh.. not comparing their shooting Joe, stay with me. I was comparing the question marks about running the point, and yes Steph had those same question marks. More of a small SG, weak defensively, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Before I go too far down this rabbit hole, I would obviously be fine with LaVine if we had drafted him or got him cheap. I don't think he's remotely worth being the #2 piece for Butler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 07:38 PM) Sigh.. not comparing their shooting Joe, stay with me. I was comparing the question marks about running the point, and yes Steph had those same question marks. More of a small SG, weak defensively, etc. It's still an awful comparison. LaVine didn't even start in college while Curry was doing crazy s***. Steph was also better as a rookie than I ever expect to see from LaVine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I like Lavine but if you trade butler for him and Dunn you deserve to be the worst team for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 WOJ BOMB! Ibaka going to Orlando. Interested to see details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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