Chisoxfn Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 1, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Paxson is the better drafter and more aggressive, I like it. Supposedly he wanted to actually address this mess, but was outvoted. Either way...Paxson had a pretty darn good run at building the club. He probably is just as screwed up as Gar, but I at least saw a time where Paxson was head honcho and the Bulls were one of the more respected orgs in the league. It really wasn't even that long ago (sadly). And he built them back to that after an all-time low (post Jordan era). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 1, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) "The general manager who drafted LeBron James " Wow!!!! Yeah, I got a kick out of that. That said, when it comes to Paxson, I do give him (or whomever made the decision) a lot of credit for taking Rose over Beasley. That was not some sure fire pick (as for a long time everyone thought Beasley was going to go #1). So while he got lucky, getting Rose, picking him over Beasley wasn't a sure thing. I bet it was 60/40 or something along those lines (in terms of what other teams would have done in the Bulls shoes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 GarPax just keepin the line moving. Nothing to see here, everything is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 This is the worst news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Looks like they love their roster. Just need some development. For the love of God, get rid of these clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I wish someone would ask Gar to evaluate himself on how good he was acquiring d league guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Paxson: "You can't underscore the impact Rajon had with our young guys." I saw young guys benched in the playoffs, or playing minimal, very inconsistent minutes. Plus his next quote is they don't seem to know what they have in their young guys. C'mon Pax, you at least used to be better than that. It's status quo at the UC. You want something to really happen, it will take about 10k cancellations of season tickets. Then Gar adds how they are setting their cap space up. Same s***, different year. Are Gar and Pax the only people not aware their young players aren't a championship quality group? Edited May 3, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 This organization is so bad. I can't cheer for this anymore. It's heartbreaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Paxson: "Our young guys need a consistent role. That is what we are focused on moving forward." LMAO. So bring back Fred. You suck, sit out a week. So you have haven't played the last 5 games? You're starting tonight. And in Fred's defense, maybe if one of these young players took their opportunity and ran with it, it wouldn't be so inconsistent. But, no one did, and it was because they aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) They actually threw out Isiaah Thomas when discussing Cam Payne. Other than the shooting and the passing, and the scoring, they may have a point. All Cam needs is to get into a little better shape. He's hardly played in 2 years. Edited May 3, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 the #FireGarPax hashtag is pretty busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Though not a fred fan, they make it impossible to not side with any bulls coaches with how incredibly combative and openly critical they are. Like how every manager with a bad bullpen looks terrible, fred looks a lot worse when he has to plug and play 5 guards that have no business in NBA. Maybe a little harsh on grant, but not far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ May 3, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) Though not a fred fan, they make it impossible to not side with any bulls coaches with how incredibly combative and openly critical they are. Like how every manager with a bad bullpen looks terrible, fred looks a lot worse when he has to plug and play 5 guards that have no business in NBA. Maybe a little harsh on grant, but not far off. They've made Fred Hoiberg a sympathetic figure. They want their young guys to play but their young guys all blow. They also want to make the playoffs while playing the s***ty young guys. They complain that it's hard to make a dramatic changes and then they say that help isn't coming because of where they pick in the draft. They choose that though. You are choosing to have the 16th pick every year. Nothing is changing until they stop making money. As long as fans continue to fill that place every night, this is what will happen. Bulls fans are getting everything they've asked for. They've shown over the years that the current "plan" is absolutely 100% good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 16m16 minutes ago ##Bulls offer no clarity on Butler's future, admit he's a 'different' fit for Hoiberg's system http://cbsloc.al/2p9rYuE via @CodyWesterlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 670 The ScoreVerified account @670TheScore 3h3 hours ago John Paxson: 'Really good chance' the #Bulls bring back Rajon Rondo http://cbsloc.al/2p9kxDH via @CodyWesterlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 What is the process for changing fanbases? Is it complicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) What is the process for changing fanbases? Is it complicated? Call up a Golden State fan and find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:03 PM) What is the process for changing fanbases? Is it complicated? No need to do that. Just marvel at the current NBA as a whole for the time being. We're about 5-6 weeks away from what is shaping up to be the greatest nba finals of all-time. The Bulls, at some point, will get with the times. Can't be this inept forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Call up a Golden State fan and find out. Ain't that the truth? QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) No need to do that. Just marvel at the current NBA as a whole for the time being. We're about 5-6 weeks away from what is shaping up to be the greatest nba finals of all-time. The Bulls, at some point, will get with the times. Can't be this inept forever. Ugh, I don't know, man. The fact that those two guys are still in charge is infuriating. I have been a Paxson defender in the past, but this is all too much for me. Edited May 3, 2017 by Sox-35th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) No need to do that. Just marvel at the current NBA as a whole for the time being. We're about 5-6 weeks away from what is shaping up to be the greatest nba finals of all-time. The Bulls, at some point, will get with the times. Can't be this inept forever. You've flip flopped on the Cavs like 47 times this season. Now this is going to be the greatest NBA finals of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) No need to do that. Just marvel at the current NBA as a whole for the time being. We're about 5-6 weeks away from what is shaping up to be the greatest nba finals of all-time. The Bulls, at some point, will get with the times. Can't be this inept forever. Watching you talk about the NBA is like watching Apple talk about their iPhones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 QUOTE (chw42 @ May 3, 2017 -> 05:41 PM) Watching you talk about the NBA is like watching Apple talk about their iPhones. Or Sean Spicer talk about Donald Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 QUOTE (Sox-35th @ May 3, 2017 -> 04:23 PM) Ain't that the truth? Ugh, I don't know, man. The fact that those two guys are still in charge is infuriating. I have been a Paxson defender in the past, but this is all too much for me. Paxson has been here for 14 years, Gar was hired around Tim Floyd Era but came into power in 2007/2008ish. If anyone thinks the Bulls will eventually get it right while Jerry (and now especially Michael who is best friends with Gar) is running the team, they're out of their damn mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ May 3, 2017 -> 09:23 PM) Paxson has been here for 14 years, Gar was hired around Tim Floyd Era but came into power in 2007/2008ish. If anyone thinks the Bulls will eventually get it right while Jerry (and now especially Michael who is best friends with Gar) is running the team, they're out of their damn mind. Paxson took over as GM in 2003. He has hired 5 coaches and they have won 5 playoff series. They've actually only won 5 playoff series since 98. Their drafting has also fallen off the cliff since Matt Lloyd left the organization. The Bulls have fewer scouts than most teams and a semblance of an analytics department. Paxson basically took the reigns back yesterday and I'd rather have him in power than Gar but it's still just meh. I do think there's a solid chance that Pax trades Butler at the draft though and restarts the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ May 3, 2017 -> 09:23 PM) Paxson has been here for 14 years, Gar was hired around Tim Floyd Era but came into power in 2007/2008ish. If anyone thinks the Bulls will eventually get it right while Jerry (and now especially Michael who is best friends with Gar) is running the team, they're out of their damn mind. I give Paxson credit for when he was GM. He rebuilt the franchise when it was bargain basement and fired all the right people and built this thing in the mid 2000s. That was a decade plus ago. The Derrick Rose pick (which was pure luck) caused us to tolerate the current regime for longer, but Derrick's fall, the tension between Thibs and the FO, and the subsequent failure of Fred Hoiberg has doomed this organization. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 4, 2017 -> 07:58 AM) Paxson took over as GM in 2003. He has hired 5 coaches and they have won 5 playoff series. They've actually only won 5 playoff series since 98. Their drafting has also fallen off the cliff since Matt Lloyd left the organization. The Bulls have fewer scouts than most teams and a semblance of an analytics department. Paxson basically took the reigns back yesterday and I'd rather have him in power than Gar but it's still just meh. I do think there's a solid chance that Pax trades Butler at the draft though and restarts the franchise. Agreed on this. Paxson was a solid GM for some time. Problem is he doesn't want to do it anymore and his responses to yesterday's press conference indicate that he really has no idea what the modern NBA is. Edited May 4, 2017 by Sox-35th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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