Chisoxfn Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 By the way, I never think of Woj and him knowing our front office (they generally don't like him). He might get info but I don't think it is coming from the Bulls (it used to come through Thibs...now I don't know where he'd get any data from, at least internally). So as a result, I do put that skepticism on his reports (as it means they are likely from agents / other teams / Wade's reps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:47 PM) If we sign Wade, than I think the possibility of actually landing a bigger fish a year from now increases. I also think Wade helps ensure that Rondo doesn't totally ruin team chemistry. This. It finally shows a big fish is will to come here and gives this franchise more credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:48 PM) By the way, I never think of Woj and him knowing our front office (they generally don't like him). He might get info but I don't think it is coming from the Bulls (it used to come through Thibs...now I don't know where he'd get any data from, at least internally). So as a result, I do put that skepticism on his reports (as it means they are likely from agents / other teams / Wade's reps). Then that would make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 06:47 PM) If we sign Wade, than I think the possibility of actually landing a bigger fish a year from now increases. I also think Wade helps ensure that Rondo doesn't totally ruin team chemistry. It would literally be the only reason to sign Wade to a big contract at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On an unrelated note, I'd prefer to keep Taj (vs. dump him) but I presume they won't be able to move our PG from the Knicks (without including picks), which means it will be MDJ and Taj that get moved. Please, whatever happens, I don't want to see us giving up a 1st round pick (I really hope we can stay away from that) to free up this space. In fact, I hope we are getting something of value (especially for Taj). I don't think we should have any issues moving Taj / MJD, however, in this scenario, the Bulls have a lot less leverage making a deal (given we are forced to have to move them and would need to move them immediately). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I think if this happens, we'll make a deal with the Kings and let them take cap space off our hands (help them get to the floor) and in the meantime, they'll rest well knowing they won't lose their pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Calderon is still a competent backup PG, and with the money being thrown around, I think they can trade him. I didn't watch much basketball at all last year, but if the Bulls want a more free flowing offense, Taj, who has looked like a black hole when he gets the ball(from what I remember), might not be a great fit for the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 So the Bulls are going to trade guys to make space, and then get left at the alter again by Wade, aren't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) So the Bulls are going to trade guys to make space, and then get left at the alter again by Wade, aren't they. Well, I don't really have an issue of them moving people, etc...as long as they aren't moving long-term pieces / assets. I presume anything we do would be more contingent on things going through (and right now we are ensuring we have things in place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 All this said, I have no idea how and what Rondo / Wade / Buckets will look like offensively. It isn't exactly the best basketball pairing / melding of skill-sets. But Rondo is a short-timer and in the grand scheme so is Wade, so I'm all for whatever gives the Bulls the best shot to find other real assets to go with Butler longer term. And hell, in the short-term, it makes for an interesting watch. And if a year from now, James teams up with Wade and Butler in Chicago (after the Cavs get spanked by the Warriors)...it will all be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm sure the Bulls want a commitment before they start moving guys. Maybe this is a sign that's coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 How much cap space do we have at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 @wojverticalnba Sources: Dwyane Wade is pushing for a resolution on his future tonight: Miami, Chicago or Denver. Pat Riley wants an answer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 07:53 PM) @wojverticalnba Sources: Dwyane Wade is pushing for a resolution on his future tonight: Miami, Chicago or Denver. Pat Riley wants an answer too. As dumb and pointless as itd be, Wade coming here would be oddly fun. I honestly think it'd change what players think about the Bulls. The deal for Demarcus cousins and let him Chuck threes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Please, please go back to Miami. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) As dumb and pointless as itd be, Wade coming here would be oddly fun. I honestly think it'd change what players think about the Bulls. The deal for Demarcus cousins and let him Chuck threes. LOL this would be most hilarious team ever. Hoiball. Rondo dribbles for 15 minutes while Wade claps at him frantically before he sends it to boogie for a 3 pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 @kcjhoop Wade doesn't need face-to-face meeting w/ Bulls because he met w/ them twice in '10 FA. He just has to pick them--and Bulls have to unload $ Ahh f*** it. Just come here Wade. At least I'd be interested because it'd show stars can sign here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:24 PM) So the Bulls are going to trade guys to make space, and then get left at the alter again by Wade, aren't they. That'd be fun. I'd love to see a Rondo-Butler-McD-Niko-Lopez lineup with Valentine being the 6th man playing minutes at 1-3 and Portis being the primary backup at 4/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 @wojnbavertical Pending Chicago's belief they have deal to clear cap space, Dwyane Wade is nearing commitment to sign with Bulls, sources tell @TheVertical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Oh god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) @wojnbavertical Pending Chicago's belief they have deal to clear cap space, Dwyane Wade is nearing commitment to sign with Bulls, sources tell @TheVertical I'm still not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 It's happening lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 f*** it. I'm on board because now they landed big star (albeit an old one I know). I'm sure Wade still has some pull with younger stars. We'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago Dwyane Wade has informed the Bulls he plans to sign a deal with them, sources tell @TheVertical. Bulls sending out contracts now. K.C. Johnson @KCJHoop 22s22 seconds ago Bulls have found a trading partner for Calderon, per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 6, 2016 -> 08:21 PM) @wojnbavertical Pending Chicago's belief they have deal to clear cap space, Dwyane Wade is nearing commitment to sign with Bulls, sources tell @TheVertical Time for everyone to change the name on their Ben Wallace jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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