Falcon Heights Minnesota shooting

[pettie4sox]

I know it's been going on for decades. MSM definitely has exposed it and that's a good thing! It's heartbreaking because a guy's life just ended because of this frantic and amateur cop. That much can be discerned from his shaky voice after he did the deed and the fact he kept yelling "f***" knowing he just seriously f***ed up.

 

 

[Y2HH]

as bmags pointed out, there's no reliable statistics one way or the other on this. Police departments don't always track this and don't track it in the same way.

 

By no means am I exonerating police everywhere, but the idea that this is "America" is f***ing absurd. What the is, is media reporting on nothing but bad things, because they know it sells. Violence sells. Turning people on one another sells.

 

There is much more good going on in America than bad, and I don't need "statistics on police shootings" to know that.

[StrangeSox]

By no means am I exonerating police everywhere, but the idea that this is "America" is f***ing absurd. What the is, is media reporting on nothing but bad things, because they know it sells. Violence sells. Turning people on one another sells.

 

There is much more good going on in America than bad, and I don't need "statistics on police shootings" to know that.

 

I'm glad that police murder is getting more attention if it means police will commit and cover up fewer murders going forward. I don't particularly care if it "represents" "America" or the ratio of good/bad going on in America, this is still a s***ty and horrible and too frequent thing.

[pettie4sox]

People murdering other people is an issue that will be here until the end of days. It's not irrelevant and people aren't really saying it is. When you have representatives of the government slaughtering their citizens, it's a big f***ing deal. We pay cops to protect and serve. A busted tail light ending with a murder of a citizen is atrocious.

 

Start f***ing charging these cops and convicting them FFS.

[Y2HH]

I'm glad that police murder is getting more attention if it means police will commit and cover up fewer murders going forward. I don't particularly care if it "represents" "America" or the ratio of good/bad going on in America, this is still a s***ty and horrible and too frequent thing.

 

Won't disagree there.

[RockRaines]

I'm glad that police murder is getting more attention if it means police will commit and cover up fewer murders going forward. I don't particularly care if it "represents" "America" or the ratio of good/bad going on in America, this is still a s***ty and horrible and too frequent thing.

Agreed. Police officers need to be held to a higher standard and you should know that going in. It cannot be a job for people that are looking to be in a position of power or just looking for a job. We cannot hire just anyone to protect and serve the community.

[pettie4sox]

Here's the thing that irks me about America.

 

Americans boasts about this being the greatest country on the planet. That's fine and dandy but that's a f***ing reality if you're a white person.

 

I think it's easy to get caught up in this s*** doesn't happen all the time which has some merit. That being said, as a black male with no criminal record and I still have utter fear when I see cops. Most black males feel similarly because you never know when you might catch one on a bad day and end up six feet under. This is reality for a black male in America. So yeah it might not happen often but if it happens to you, it won't matter.

 

If you could live a day in black man's shoes, you might have a different perspective. I always feel like I have emasculate myself so that I don't scare the s*** of white people. This is exhausting but it is what it is. You probably don't get people clutching their purses when you get within a certain vicinity of them. You don't have people see you as a dangerous human being even though you'd never hurt a fly.

 

If I ever have decide to have kids, it'll be tough to have to explain to them why they could be in danger due to the color of their skin.

[Swingandalongonetoleft]

Video was nauseating. WTF.

[Y2Jimmy0]

That video is one of the worst things I've ever seen. He told the officer that he was carrying, the officer asked to see his license. He reached for it and the cop murdered him with a 4 year old in the back seat. Unreal. Black people are disproportionately getting killed by police and cops aren't really getting punished for it. Police can target and kill with impunity in this country and that should frighten the s*** out of everyone. 1146 Americans were killed by police in 2015. 561 so far in 2016. 100 times more Americans were killed by police in the US than by ISIS. This is a problem.

[LittleHurt05]

Where is the NRA today?? This guy was killed because he was legally carrying a gun the constitution allows him to have. This is right up their wheelhouse.

 

**crickets***

[StrangeSox]

You keep bringing up this taser thing, but most cops don't carry tasers.

 

And no, I don't know why.

FWIW tasers get overused and can lead to death themselves. The problem is more basic than what tools the cops have, it's what sort of approach and what their response is. Time after time in cases like these, the response is to immediate and aggressively escalate the situation, which only makes it more likely that increasing levels of force must be used. So you give them a taser, and the first sign of resistance or non-cooperation or just no immediately understanding and complying with the officers' sometimes contradictory commands and you're getting tazed.

[StrangeSox]

Where is the NRA today?? This guy was killed because he was legally carrying a gun the constitution allows him to have. This is right up their wheelhouse.

 

**crickets***

FWIW, after police murdered John Crawford in a Walmart for holding a BB gun he picked up off of the shelf and was casually holding in a state where open carry is legal and he'd be perfectly within his rights to carry a real gun around, gun supporters did protest the police.

 

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/10/0...-he-were-white/

[Quin]

Where is the NRA today?? This guy was killed because he was legally carrying a gun the constitution allows him to have. This is right up their wheelhouse.

 

**crickets***

 

I mean, the logic being used here is that legally carrying a gun is an allowable death sentence, so yeah, where's LaPierre's ass at? He's so quick usually.

[Y2HH]

FWIW tasers get overused and can lead to death themselves. The problem is more basic than what tools the cops have, it's what sort of approach and what their response is. Time after time in cases like these, the response is to immediate and aggressively escalate the situation, which only makes it more likely that increasing levels of force must be used. So you give them a taser, and the first sign of resistance or non-cooperation or just no immediately understanding and complying with the officers' sometimes contradictory commands and you're getting tazed.

 

Tasers are also pretty ineffective as they're a one and done. If you miss, or the prongs don't penetrate, they're effectively useless, and in situations where the person is nervous, odds are they'll miss.

 

If they put some R&D into tasers, maybe this wouldn't be an issue...but there isn't much money in that, I'd assume...or we'd have some advanced tasers.

[RockRaines]

Tasers are also pretty ineffective as they're a one and done. If you miss, or the prongs don't penetrate, they're effectively useless, and in situations where the person is nervous, odds are they'll miss.

 

If they put some R&D into tasers, maybe this wouldn't be an issue...but there isn't much money in that, I'd assume...or we'd have some advanced tasers.

What ever happened to that military grade mace?

[RockRaines]

Here's the thing that irks me about America.

 

Americans boasts about this being the greatest country on the planet. That's fine and dandy but that's a f***ing reality if you're a white person.

 

I think it's easy to get caught up in this s*** doesn't happen all the time which has some merit. That being said, as a black male with no criminal record and I still have utter fear when I see cops. Most black males feel similarly because you never know when you might catch one on a bad day and end up six feet under. This is reality for a black male in America. So yeah it might not happen often but if it happens to you, it won't matter.

 

If you could live a day in black man's shoes, you might have a different perspective. I always feel like I have emasculate myself so that I don't scare the s*** of white people. This is exhausting but it is what it is. You probably don't get people clutching their purses when you get within a certain vicinity of them. You don't have people see you as a dangerous human being even though you'd never hurt a fly.

 

If I ever have decide to have kids, it'll be tough to have to explain to them why they could be in danger due to the color of their skin.

We've come a long way in certain aspects and havent moved an inch in others.

[StrangeSox]

What ever happened to that military grade mace?

 

Mace is actually banned by international treaties for battlefield use!

 

Also gets overused by police for the smallest slights or noncompliance or sometimes for no real reason at all. The problem isn't the tools.

[BigSqwert]

@wyattcenac

If American Muslims can be asked to denounce "radical Islam," seems only fair American police be asked to denounce "extremist cops."

 

[Iwritecode]

Also gets overused by police for the smallest slights or noncompliance or sometimes for no real reason at all. The problem isn't the tools.

 

Yup

 

Woman gets arrested in front of 4-year-old daughter. Apparently spits at one of the cops and gets punched in the face, sat on and then later kicked after having a spit guard put on her head.

 

Edited July 7, 2016 by Iwritecode

[StrangeSox]

Note that being a police officer may be a stressful job, but it isn't actually a particularly dangerous one:

 

 

Most of the danger comes from the fact that much of their time is spent driving around which leads to car accidents (e.g. taxi drivers and chauffeurs being ranked higher).

[bmags]

Tasers killed like 3 people when I worked at the paper (read this as I remember 3 stories in a relatively short time of tasers killing people).

 

 

[BigSqwert]

Absolutely appalling

 

Reynolds said, she was placed in the back of a police car as other officers “soothed” the officer who fired on Castile. “They pulled him over to the side and they began to calm him down and tell him that it was OK and he would get through this,” Reynolds said.

 

In the video streamed on Facebook Wednesday night, Reynolds could be seen in the back of a police car, saying she has been handcuffed.

 

“They took me to jail,” Reynolds said Thursday. “They didn’t feed us. They didn’t give us water. They took everything from me. They put me in a room and separated me from my child. … They treated me like a prisoner. They treated me like I did this to me, and I didn’t, they did this to us.”

[MexSoxFan#1]

I'm also scared of cops, I've been harrassed by them before and I've never been arrested in my entire life.

 

I'm always on the look out for cops and I try to avoid them to lessen the chance of an encounter with them.

 

Jesus Christ, I gotta go back to Mexico where I fell safer, too many gun toting, trigger happy crazies running around (and that's just the cops).

[Y2HH]

I'm also scared of cops, I've been harrassed by them before and I've never been arrested in my entire life.

 

I'm always on the look out for cops and I try to avoid them to lessen the chance of an encounter with them.

 

Jesus Christ, I gotta go back to Mexico where I fell safer, too many gun toting, trigger happy crazies running around (and that's just the cops).

 

Just lol. Yet another person living here, claiming how much it sucks, how dangerous it is to poor little ol' them and threatening to leave...yet won't actually do so. Please, just go back, send us a postcard. I'm sure there's someone that'd be more than willing to take your place.

 

I hope all the republicans that claim to leave if hillary or bernie get elected do when/if it happens. I hope all the democrats that make these equally stupid claims do the same if trump gets elected. And I hope everyone that feels it's too dangerous to live here does the same.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Y2HH

[MexSoxFan#1]

Just lol. Yet another person living here, claiming how much it sucks, how dangerous it is to poor little ol' them and threatening to leave...yet won't actually do so. Please, just go back, send us a postcard. I'm sure there's someone that'd be more than willing to take your place.

 

I hope all the republicans that claim to leave if hillary or bernie get elected do when/if it happens. I hope all the democrats that make these equally stupid claims do the same if trump gets elected. And I hope everyone that feels it's too dangerous to live here does the same.

Um, I actually do live in Mexico, I'm in the US temporarily taking care of a family matter. I might have to stay until October or November but I really do want to go back home.

 

BTW, I've never had an bad encounter with the police in Mexico...can't say the same here in the US.